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How 2+2 came to equal 5

You have just entered room "fugls." joefugl: where's food? LukFugl: who didn't put the lunch in the car? fuglv: Who wants to go to the car and see if it's there? joefugl: not i joefugl: von does fugl77: a moment of silence LukFugl: von does fuglv: I have to be in english in 15 mins. joefugl: von does joefugl: von does LukFugl: I'm at work joefugl: von does fuglv: stop copying and pasting, russel. joefugl: I'm not joefugl: I'm not fuglv: russel does. joefugl: Von does fuglv: russel does. fuglv: russel does. fuglv: russel does. fuglv: russel does. fuglv: russel does. fuglv: russel does. fuglv: russel does. fuglv: russel does. joefugl: how about we have an approval vote? fugl77: agreed fugl77: I approve someone put it in the car fuglv: You can't approve me, cause I can't LukFugl: yes fuglv: yes fugl77: all that approve that the lunch is in the car say aye LukFugl: aye fuglv: aye fugl77: aye fugl77: the ayes have it, the lunch must be in the car joefugl: aye LukFugl: who's going to get it? fugl77: all that approve the lunch is in the locker say aya LukFugl: aya fuglv: aya joefugl: nay fugl77: nay LukFugl: the aya's have it fugl77: 'tis a tie joefugl: i am an eye witness fuglv: nay LukFugl: eye witnesses don't count fugl77: I'm an aya witness LukFugl: just votes fuglv: let's recount. joefugl: von revoted fugl77: the ballot was confusing joefugl: revote LukFugl: all in favor of 2 + 2 = 5 (math would be much easier) LukFugl: aye fugl77: aye joefugl: aye fuglv: aye LukFugl: see what I mean fugl77: great, only 2.5 billion more votes to go before it's true LukFugl: from now on, 2 + 2 is 5 fugl77: hooray joefugl: so me, von, and hans and jacob make five of us? fugl77: I'll be happy to go down and get the lunch if anyone's sure it's there fugl77: wait, that complicates the lunch situatio fugl77: n fugl77: I didn't make enough for 5 people fugl77: o wait, yes we did. :-) joefugl: i get two fuglv: thanks to jacob there are extra beans! fugl77: I get two too - two plus two is five, so there's extra joefugl: yeah fugl77: all we have to do is split the lunch into quarters and add joefugl: i think it's in the car joefugl: but i know i didn't put it in LukFugl: yeah! fuglv: but if you divide it by two twice, you get fifths. LukFugl: do! fugl77: so we need to vote on what two fifths plus two fifths is? joefugl: sorry, I'm confused fuglv: that's simple, it's one! LukFugl: von's right fugl77: oh yeah fuglv: 2+2/5 = 5/5 joefugl: yeah LukFugl: but - if we divide it in half 5 times LukFugl: then there are tenths joefugl: we get...I'm confused fugl77: 2+2/5 = 10/5 + 2/5 = 12/5 is the same as (2 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 2) / 5 fugl77: = 15 / 5 = 3 joefugl: if we break it enough can we feed 5000? LukFugl: so if we divide it in half twice, then add them back together, it's three times as much? fugl77: I always wondered how that happened joefugl: :-) fuglv: I have to go now. fuglv has left the room. fugl77: go pues LukFugl: did he go for the lunch? joefugl: so if 8=(2+2)+(2+2), does 8=10? LukFugl: so now hom many of us are there? LukFugl: russel - yes joefugl: there is now (2+2)-1=5-1=4 of us LukFugl: the only way to get four of something is to 2 + 2 then take one away LukFugl: because if Von had never been here, we'd be three, but now we're four LukFugl: you know what - we haven't defined what 2 * 2 should be fugl77: 12 fugl77: I like 12 LukFugl: that's too big LukFugl: 3? fugl77: 3 is good to fugl77: o LukFugl: 3 then fugl77: it's obvious from text books and scribbles on the underside of placemats at pizza hut that 2+2 == 2*2 joefugl: or there might be (2+2)+(2+2)+(2+2)+(2+2)+(2+2)+(2+2)-21=5+5+5+5+5+5-21=30-21=9 of us fugl77 has left the room. fugl77 has entered the room. LukFugl: so 5/3 = (2 + 2) / 2 * 2 = 2 * (1 + 1) / 2 * 2 = (1 + 1) / 2 = 1 joefugl: Hans, now there's only three of us LukFugl: new mathematical identities! LukFugl: 5/3 = 1! LukFugl: so, if you times anything by 5/3, it's the same as timesing it by 1, and there are no mathematical repercussions LukFugl: you can say (mathematically) it's the same thing, but there LukFugl: 's almost twice as much! LukFugl: do it repeatedly, and you'll have lots! LukFugl: It's almost better than compound interest fugl77: lots of the same thing fugl77: it's better than imaginary numbers!